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	<title>Comments on: Time to rethink biotech foods?</title>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://downtoearthblog.com/farming/time-to-rethink-biotech-foods/archives/65#comment-684</link>
		<author>Lisa</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Geoffrey Lean and The Independent.  Sigh.  Based on past dealings with Mr. Lean, he is pretty straightforward in his opposition to plant biotech. But of course, it isn't his job to be a cheerleader.  Nor mine -- I just want to get us beyond a "he said/she said" and "either or" type of discussion on this technology.  No, it's not perfect.  Nor is it a panacea to a food shortage --and I don't know anyone who makes those claims.  But it is a technology that exists today that can make a difference.

Increased yields are just ONE benefit for SOME crops.  Today's GM crops are basically developed to fight bugs and weeds, the bane of farmers, and a drag on crop yields.

As Sara notes in her post, research is underway to address issues of salt tolerance and better nitrogen utilization.  And drought tolerance improvement has already been realized in corn.  These changes will likley allow future farmers to grow crops on marginal land, or to better adapt crops to the changing climate.

I appreciate Sara's thoughtful comments -- she's a scientist, and I'm not.  I would encourage anyone who wants to wade into this issue and make their own decision, to visit http://www.isaaa.org/kc/default.asp (paste this link into your browser) to learn more about the work that's being done around the world to help farmers, particularly those in developing countries, have access to modern tools of agriculture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Geoffrey Lean and The Independent.  Sigh.  Based on past dealings with Mr. Lean, he is pretty straightforward in his opposition to plant biotech. But of course, it isn&#8217;t his job to be a cheerleader.  Nor mine &#8212; I just want to get us beyond a &#8220;he said/she said&#8221; and &#8220;either or&#8221; type of discussion on this technology.  No, it&#8217;s not perfect.  Nor is it a panacea to a food shortage &#8211;and I don&#8217;t know anyone who makes those claims.  But it is a technology that exists today that can make a difference.</p>
<p>Increased yields are just ONE benefit for SOME crops.  Today&#8217;s GM crops are basically developed to fight bugs and weeds, the bane of farmers, and a drag on crop yields.</p>
<p>As Sara notes in her post, research is underway to address issues of salt tolerance and better nitrogen utilization.  And drought tolerance improvement has already been realized in corn.  These changes will likley allow future farmers to grow crops on marginal land, or to better adapt crops to the changing climate.</p>
<p>I appreciate Sara&#8217;s thoughtful comments &#8212; she&#8217;s a scientist, and I&#8217;m not.  I would encourage anyone who wants to wade into this issue and make their own decision, to visit <a href="http://www.isaaa.org/kc/default.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.isaaa.org/kc/default.asp</a> (paste this link into your browser) to learn more about the work that&#8217;s being done around the world to help farmers, particularly those in developing countries, have access to modern tools of agriculture.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://downtoearthblog.com/farming/time-to-rethink-biotech-foods/archives/65#comment-682</link>
		<author>Sara</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was in the &lt;a href="http://www.ethicurean.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Ethicurean digest&lt;/a&gt;.  The &lt;a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/green-living/" rel="nofollow"&gt;original post&lt;/a&gt; is in the Indpendent.  The research article is supposedly published in "Better Crops" Gordon, B., 2007. Manganese nutrition of glyphosate-resistant and conventionalsoybeans. Better Crops, Vol. 91, No. 4: 12-13

I cannot find the original research article online, but what I have been unable to unearth does lend creedence to a yield decline in Roundup Ready GMs.  This is in part explained by the chemical action of the Roundup itself, which can alter the nutrient uptake ability of the plant, even if the plant is engineered to be resistant to the killing action.

The important thing to realize is that this is not an indictment of the GM process itself.  It is a strong caution to the industry however, about evaluating the big picture, and total production when we use GM.   

One other real phenomenon is the genetic progress made in breeding conventional varieties while the modified strain is being tested.  In species where there is still much genetic progress to be made by traditional selection, the base yield may, in fact, increase more in the time lag than the modification causes in the original crop.  That same modification, once proven, could theoretically be made in the later generation genetic stock to bump the yield further.

I have seen much very convincing research on modifications such as salt tolerance and nitrogen utilization that show yield increases and/or fertilizer need decreases compared to conventional varieties.

Neither sweeping generalization that "GMOs will cause the end of the world" nor "GMOs will solve all our problems" are accurate.  Genetic modification is a useful technology, but must be evaluated thoroughly and honestly and used wisely in the larger context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was in the <a href="http://www.ethicurean.com/" rel="nofollow">Ethicurean digest</a>.  The <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/green-living/" rel="nofollow">original post</a> is in the Indpendent.  The research article is supposedly published in &#8220;Better Crops&#8221; Gordon, B., 2007. Manganese nutrition of glyphosate-resistant and conventionalsoybeans. Better Crops, Vol. 91, No. 4: 12-13</p>
<p>I cannot find the original research article online, but what I have been unable to unearth does lend creedence to a yield decline in Roundup Ready GMs.  This is in part explained by the chemical action of the Roundup itself, which can alter the nutrient uptake ability of the plant, even if the plant is engineered to be resistant to the killing action.</p>
<p>The important thing to realize is that this is not an indictment of the GM process itself.  It is a strong caution to the industry however, about evaluating the big picture, and total production when we use GM.   </p>
<p>One other real phenomenon is the genetic progress made in breeding conventional varieties while the modified strain is being tested.  In species where there is still much genetic progress to be made by traditional selection, the base yield may, in fact, increase more in the time lag than the modification causes in the original crop.  That same modification, once proven, could theoretically be made in the later generation genetic stock to bump the yield further.</p>
<p>I have seen much very convincing research on modifications such as salt tolerance and nitrogen utilization that show yield increases and/or fertilizer need decreases compared to conventional varieties.</p>
<p>Neither sweeping generalization that &#8220;GMOs will cause the end of the world&#8221; nor &#8220;GMOs will solve all our problems&#8221; are accurate.  Genetic modification is a useful technology, but must be evaluated thoroughly and honestly and used wisely in the larger context.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://downtoearthblog.com/farming/time-to-rethink-biotech-foods/archives/65#comment-681</link>
		<author>Lisa</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jenny, could you share those reports?  They sound contradictory to what I've seen by ISAAA (www.isaaa.org) and the UN FAO.  I'm curious to see the context, thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jenny, could you share those reports?  They sound contradictory to what I&#8217;ve seen by ISAAA (www.isaaa.org) and the UN FAO.  I&#8217;m curious to see the context, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://downtoearthblog.com/farming/time-to-rethink-biotech-foods/archives/65#comment-680</link>
		<author>Jenny</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many recent studies are indicating that GM crops actually result in fewer yields and are less productive than conventional crops.  That hardly seems to be the answer to a food shortage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many recent studies are indicating that GM crops actually result in fewer yields and are less productive than conventional crops.  That hardly seems to be the answer to a food shortage.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie Strickland</title>
		<link>http://downtoearthblog.com/farming/time-to-rethink-biotech-foods/archives/65#comment-679</link>
		<author>Debbie Strickland</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All very well said, Lisa!  If the human population is going to grow by another 50% (all of whom will want to park on my street), we desperately need improvements in all the core food crops (and food animals, too). The good news is. . . .there's good news!  This month alone, Golden Rice trials got underway in the Philippines, and Uganda moved forward on a framework for biotech crops (the country's researchers are already testing a virus-resistant banana). A survey found Indian consumers were receptive to biotech foods, and would in many cases choose them over comparable non-biotech products. Both companies and academic researchers are developing drought- and salt-resistant crops.  Will all of this be enough to save the world?  One can hope, although we have to acknowledge there are limits to the productivity of the earth.  But biotech may be able to help us get the most out of the soil, water and sunlight that we have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All very well said, Lisa!  If the human population is going to grow by another 50% (all of whom will want to park on my street), we desperately need improvements in all the core food crops (and food animals, too). The good news is. . . .there&#8217;s good news!  This month alone, Golden Rice trials got underway in the Philippines, and Uganda moved forward on a framework for biotech crops (the country&#8217;s researchers are already testing a virus-resistant banana). A survey found Indian consumers were receptive to biotech foods, and would in many cases choose them over comparable non-biotech products. Both companies and academic researchers are developing drought- and salt-resistant crops.  Will all of this be enough to save the world?  One can hope, although we have to acknowledge there are limits to the productivity of the earth.  But biotech may be able to help us get the most out of the soil, water and sunlight that we have.</p>
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